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Post by st1allstar Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:42 pm

upon driving my newly purchased uno home it has developed a miss fire just coming off the motorway (luckily) the rev counter is under reading, and it sounds like a scooby with little power,

i did a compression test which showed good compression on all cylinders,

i replaced all 4 spark plugs and no difference has been made along with the dizzy cap and rotor arm,

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Post by charliemk1 Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:45 am

Have you worked out what cylinder(s) is down?

Wild guess is blown head gasket between 2 and 3
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Post by st1allstar Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:50 am

its down on cylinder 2, i've removed the spark plug and cranked the engine over and with the ht lead connected there is no spark, i connected the lead from cylinder 1 and the spark plug lights,

i've compression tested all cylinders and they are showing 11 bar each

im going to go down to a motor factors tomorrow and see if i can pick up a new dizzy cap, rotor arm and a set of ht leads
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Post by charliemk1 Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:57 am

Problem solved then Mark, as no 2 wont fire with no spark:) 
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Post by robr33gts Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:41 am

could be the leads then as you say
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Post by st1allstar Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:06 am

changed the plugs, dizzy cap, rotor arm and ht leads and no difference its still running on 3 cylinders
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Post by robr33gts Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:12 am

injectors ? is it sparking on all four now ?
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Post by st1allstar Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:44 am

No it's not sparking cylinder 2, I've done the tests on the ignition ecu as per the Haynes manual and 've got it down to the ignition coil
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Post by charliemk1 Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:38 pm

What does that book say about the coil managing to fire 134 but not 2?

Is the plug wet in no 2 cylinder?

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Post by st1allstar Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:55 am

cylinder 2 is wet but no spark, nothing wrong with plug or ht lead, i'm gonna try and get hold of a ignition coil and power module see if that sorts it, losing my patience with it a bit dont wanna have to break it
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Post by Louie Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:38 am

robr33gts wrote:injectors ? is it sparking on all four now ?
All 4 injectors pulse at the same time on the ut.

Not sure on the coil - it's not like coil packs where there is an individual coil per plug.

Have you tried another spark ecu?
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Post by st1allstar Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:08 pm

have tried that ignition coil and power module, still the same

had enough of it now
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Post by Louie Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:31 pm

Get that spare spark ECU on it Mark.
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Post by st1allstar Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:04 am

Turns out I don't have one, must have sold it
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Post by Mintys-turbo-mk1 Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:57 am

^^ I have one that i don't need Mark.
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Post by charliemk1 Sat Jul 27, 2013 7:07 am

I also have one that I would swap you for that spare coil/module you now have
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Post by st1allstar Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:32 am

Nice one Charlie pm me your address and I'll get it posted to you
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Post by charliemk1 Sun Jul 28, 2013 5:14 am

Pm sent but no reply Mark?
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Post by charliemk1 Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:18 am

In the post
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Post by Tayto.king Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:09 pm

Silly question time but is the distributor cap sitting properly on it's base, it might be riding high on no.2 if not sitting properly.
Also have you checked for play in the distributor shaft bearing by moving the shaft from side to side.

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Post by st1allstar Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:57 pm

Cap is sitting correctly I have even changed the distributor for a spare one its still the same
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Post by Tayto.king Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:37 pm

I can't see why the spark would just break down on no'2 alone and run well on 1,3 & 4 once power enters the distributor cap unless it's not making contact with no.2's terminal inside the cap. Especially as you've already changed the cap,rotor arm, ht lead and plug already.
I've had this with a distributor cap i bought from a motor factors on my gf's VW Polo, pattern parts don't fit that well as they're roughly made to fit as many cars as possible.

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Post by unot190bhp Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:49 pm

get the multi meter out sounds like a bad wire
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Post by charliemk1 Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:48 am

When the coil your sending me eventually turns up??. I'll check its working correctly
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Post by st1allstar Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:49 am

It's in the post
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